I went to two back-to-back Memorials. A sister whom I knew (but didn't recognize me) handed me an invitation to the special talk. I said, "Hi, sister X," and she did a double take. I do not look like a JW.
It was good seeing old friends again.
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Did You Get Invited to the Memorial?
by Ding ini'm just wondering if jws keep inviting you back or if they've given up on you.. they haven't invited me for years..
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Did You Get Invited to the Memorial?
by Ding ini'm just wondering if jws keep inviting you back or if they've given up on you.. they haven't invited me for years..
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YES.
Many JWs on Facebook responded to my words of thanks and love for their kindness to me over the years. I live a long ways from the KH and was assured I would get there tonight if I had no transportation.
I will be attending two Memorials because I need to see friends and family before I die. I say that in all sincerity, without wishing to sound maudlin. These people have meant the world to me, going back as far back as 50 years. If they were in trouble because of their faith -- the one that I have abandoned -- I would be there for them.
Despite the butterflies in my stomach, I am hoping that, by this evening, the winged creatures will all be flying in formation.
Best regards, whatever you end up doing.
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In regards to memorial, what I am going to do
by Truth and Justice inwow!
what a list of new friends we have on this forum, i don't know if i'll ever be able to keep up, but that's ok.. i wanted to dive in to the post to talk about the memorial.
i do not have any intentions of going, even if i was invited.
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Wonderful, bittersweet posts, all!
I wrote in Steve2's thread about NZ's already concluded Memorials that my mother partook for the first time when I gave the memorial talk decades ago. That created shock waves amongst kith and kin, yet my ever kooky, dearly departed mum was beloved in the congregation. I have no clue if's she's currently asleep in the grave or watching down over us . . .
My opinion on worries over rejecting Jesus is that many here do not consider the JW version of the affair theologically sound. You go tonight for friends, family, for yourself -- whatever. Have your own memorial privately afterwards, as some already are wont to do.
Best.
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2016 Memorial Done & Dusted
by steve2 inwell on this side of the planet, the southern hemisphere/ new zealand, the 2016 memorial service in local kingdom halls will be over for another year.
another great big anticlimax.
some family and relatives will have gone - but unless i ask my sister, i generally have no idea about attendance and partaker numbers.
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Hi Steve:
Your OP reminds me that I have been some 18 hours behind rather than ahead on the clock of my addlebrain. It's been about 18 years since I was in Auckland, and I had forgotten that you folks are about three-quarters of a day AHEAD of us in California.
I have vacillated over what I should do re tonight. This is a time fraught with emotion for me. When I gave the Memorial talk some 35 years ago, all my family was present; Mum partook and, henceforth, never stopped. I awoke this morning, at 4:30, with firm resolve. With no further waffling on the significance of my personal point of view, I wrote a piece appropriate to the occasion on social media.
More later . . .
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In regards to memorial, what I am going to do
by Truth and Justice inwow!
what a list of new friends we have on this forum, i don't know if i'll ever be able to keep up, but that's ok.. i wanted to dive in to the post to talk about the memorial.
i do not have any intentions of going, even if i was invited.
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Beautifully expressed, Truth and Justice!
I, too, read what Ray Franz wrote in his book about individuals celebrating the LEM in their homes and the harassment they received. It's our business, not anyone else's!
Thank you!
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I COLLECT QUOTES. . . Here are some of my favorites
by Terry inplease post your favorites too.
my favorite quotations:.
you cannot change what you refuse to confront.. sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.. don’t think of cost.
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Don't Accept the Blame for Being Shunned
by cofty inour family and friends blame us for the fact that they shun us.
imagine an abusive husband who threatened his wife that if she leaves him he will hunt her down and kill her.
eventually she finds the courage to leave and he carries out his threat.
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Thank you, cofty, for this thread.
To some JWs, I have endeavored to explain my points of view on religious life style and doctrine. Since I have become what is now "old school," I see that many of the old teachings have been tossed aside: types and antitypes, among others.
I had a special place in my heart for the anointed remnant and their position in different classes, i.e., "Naomi and Ruth," etc. Younger ones cannot understand the basis for my now obsolete faith. So then, it would appear that my inability to grasp onto and revere the new, slick religion -- JW.ORG -- makes my relationship with Jehovah (if such remains) suspect.
If I cannot wholeheartedly jump in and support current JW dogma and practice, I am avoided and, yes, on occasion, shunned. It may not be my fault -- thanks for the reassurance, cofty -- yet, it still hurts.
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JW related collective nouns
by Simon inenglish is a great language, especially when it comes to collective nouns.
a "murder" of crows is just fantastic as is a "mob" of meerkats.
a "colony" of ants, a "pride" of lions.
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by Joe Grundy in(i never was a dub).. this is something which has intrigued me for a while.
i don't know whether it's dub-speak, or us-speak.. it's the use of the word 'ones' as in 'interested ones', 'worldly ones', 'disfellowshipped ones' and so on and so on.. in the 'normal world' we would probably use the word 'people'.. thoughts?.
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As already stated, there is a certain awkwardness whenever the pronoun "one" becomes the subject of a sentence and, in formal structure, must be retained throughout:
On such a lovely day as this, one thinks of happy times past, when one was doing what one wanted, with one's friends.
A bit exaggerated, yes, but correct. Yet, who talks like this? The example above is most likely to be found in literary writing; a contemporary writer would, generally, avoid such a structure, employing a more reader-friendly format. If you were to use a "person" as subject, your follow through of a pronoun in apposition would be either "he" or "she," which could pose other difficulties for the purist, who would never say "they."
Oh, btw, I believe it was noted as a peculiarity in the ARC commentary that the Society uses the term "lands" in place of "counties": i.e., 'Jehovah's Witnesses are found in over ### lands.'
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Need confirmation: WT bought an entire mountain in China to mine the granite needed for new WT HQ
by WingCommander insomeone asked for a second source on this, so i'm putting this out there to those who may have visited the new wt hq lately and know it to be true.
i had read from others on the ex-jw subreddit that had taken a tour recently at wt hq, that they had been shown photos of a mountain in china, and told that this is where all of the granite is being mined from and shipped over to new york to use at the site of the new wt hq.
apparently, it was cheaper for them to do this and have the local brothers in china mine it, then having to by tons upon tons of granite here in the usa, even wholesale.
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It reminds me of kids in the sandbox bragging about all the stuff their dad can do. Childish exaggeration with a childlike mind that will believe anything their parent tells them. -- OrphanCrow
I played with Nana's neighbor kid when I was visiting. We dug and played in the sandbox. I started digging too deep, and she warned me that her dad was going to cut my ears off.
I believed her . . . Thanks, OC, for happy memories revisited!
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